TSD 16 – THE LOVE OF GOD : Forgiveness (Audio)

TSD 16 – THE LOVE OF GOD : Forgiveness (Audio)

By Lungisa N Joctrey

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Today’s Episode deals with the love of God in forgivenes. We see how God forgives us unconditionally and that God commands us to forgive others in the same manner. Forgiving others is in line with First and Second greastes commandments which are “And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.” (Deuteronomy 6:5) and “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.” (Leviticus 19:18)

Here are some scripture references: 

God’s love and forgiveness

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16 KJV)

Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;” (Psalms 103:2-3 KJV)

I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.” (Isaiah 44:22 KJV)

And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” (Romans 5:5-10 KJV)

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9 KJV)

God Commanding us to forgive others

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.” (Matthew 18:21-35 KJV)

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.” (Matthew 6:14-15 KJV)

Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt. So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done. Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.” (Matthew 18:21-35 KJV)

But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.” (2 Corinthians 2:5-8 KJV)

Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.” (Luke 17:3-4 KJV)

Aside

Preaching in Town (10 January 2015)

  On the morning of the Sabbath Day (10-01-2015) at 07:08, I received an SMS from brother Jono saying, “Hi man of GOD hope c u street later ta j” I couldn’t respond to it because I wasn’t really sure if I was going to town that day, after all I enjoy resting on this day. It is the day of rest, is it not? After deep thinking I decided to get ready and I took my back pack which is always packed with some tracks, a digital camera, a video camera, my KJV Bible and a bottle of water. I got my bicycle ready and I cycled 9.03Km for 25minutes to town. When I got to our favourite preaching spot, (that is to say the city centre) right outside City Hall of Pietermaritzburg, I phoned Brother Jono and told him that I was in town. I didn’t know if he was coming to town or not but he thanked me for letting him know.

While I was getting ready to preach, I heard a car hooting. I looked and to my greatest joy it was Brother Gary. He went and parked the car and then joined me. While we were busy discussing some theological controversies we have encountered on social networks, we were joined by Brother Aziz and minutes later Brother Jono joined us.

 

 

Lungisa Joctrey preaching on 1 Timothy 1:15

Lungisa Joctrey preaching on 1 Timothy 1:15

I was then greeted by a Muslim man whom I had known while I was in prison and I started a short lived debate by simply asking him as to when he will become a Christian. I can’t recollect the actual words that were exchanged but it was about Jesus being the Son of God, a thing any good Muslim finds to be blasphemous. After that I took the stand and preached on Jesus Christ coming to save sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). While I was preaching we were joined by Brother Philip and he assisted in handing out gospel tracts. When I made the end of my speech, Brother Gary preached next, raising his voice to glory of our God and Saviour Yahshua haMashiach (Jesus Christ) while Brothers Jono, Aziz, Philip and I, handed out tracts. While I took some pictures, I spotted Brother Mandlakhe Mncwabe coming towards us and he joined us in handing out tracts.

DSCF1902After Brother Gary had made the end of preaching, we said our goodbyes and all the brothers departed except Mandlakhe who was chatting with me while I was getting my cycling gear ready (that is gloves, cap, sunshades and some good music). When we were about to part, this young man by the name of Mxolisi came to us. He had been standing by while I was preaching and he was listening to what I was saying because I had changed the language from English to IsiZulu.

Before he could tell us anything about himself, I picked up from his tongue that he was a member of the TACC. He told us that he was listening to the preaching but he could not understand the part where I said God punished His Son on the cross. I then explained from Isaiah 53, how that it was prophesied that “it pleased the LORD to bruise Him” linking it with Jesus’ well known cry, “Eli Eli lama sabchthani!!?”

Isaiah 53:4-12 KJV

(4) Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

(5) But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

(6) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

(7) He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

(8) He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

(9) And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

(10) Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

(11) He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

(12) Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

He then asked us if we had received the Holy Spirit. This is the question I always get when I converse with the TACC people and I enjoy answering it. So we answered him, “No one can believe on the Lord Jesus Christ without the Holy Spirit, because according to Jesus the Holy Spirit is the one that comes to convict the world of sin, righteousness and judgment. Paul also tells us in 1 Corinthians 12:3 that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed and no one can say Jesus is the Lord except by the Holy Spirit”

“There is a lot of misunderstanding here” He said, “What I know is, in the book of Acts when the people of Samaria had believed the apostles were called for to lay hands on them so that they would receive the Holy Spirit. And when Simon the witch saw that “through the laying on of the hands of the apostles the people received the Holy Spirit” he produced money asking if they could sell this power to him. You see there, it shows that one can only receive the Holy Spirit through the laying on of the hands of the apostles”

DSCF1907“You are mistaken” I interrupted, “You see, Acts 8:18, tells us of Simon’s opinion based on his observation. He was not an apostle therefore we cannot be taught by his opinions. This is Simon’s opinion and not the ultimate rule that one would ONLY receive the Holy Ghost through the laying on of the hands of the apostles. There are accounts on the book of Acts where believers received the Holy Ghosts without having the apostle’s hands laid on them. One elephant in the room is Cornelius. Peter did not lay hands on anyone in the house of Cornelius but they received the Holy Ghost while Peter was preaching. Paul himself received the Holy Spirit when he was in Damascus, there was no apostle there. Ananias was not an apostles but he laid hands on Paul and He received the Holy Spirit ”

(Acts 9:17 KJV)

“And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.”

“But what do you say of the people that Paul asked if they had received the Holy Ghost sinced they believed and they said no, and they hadn’t heard that there was any Holy Spirit?” He asked

“The people that Paul found in Ephesus in Act 19:1-6- were not Gentiles and they were not Christians, but they were Jews who were the disciples of John the Baptist, since they were baptized by John the Baptist. Now Paul was compelled to preach to them the gospel of Jesus Christ and after that they were baptized again in the name of Lord Jesus. Then the Holy Spirit came on them.”

“I believe you are now answered on the issue of receiving the Holy Spirit, can we move on?” Mandlakhe asked

“Yes, I would like to ask you, what do you say of the resurrection of the dead?” Mxolisi asked

“The Bible says the dead will rise from their graves, just like Jesus was raised from His grave, as we all know that the disciples and the women found His grave empty. I know that your church the TACC, teaches that the dead are saved through the works of those are yet alive and they come and live in the bodies of the living in order to perform good deeds. That is not true, because firstly, the book of Ecclesiastes tell us that the dead have not a part in anything that is done under the sun. Secondly, the book of Revelation tells us that on the last judgment the dead are judged based on what is written on the books, according to their works. Those who qualify for heaven are those who have their names written on the Lamb’s Book of Life. There’s one way that anyone could have his name on that book. It is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.”

“But there were people in the times of Abraham who had never heard the gospel…” said Mxolisi

DSCF1904“Abraham heard the gospel, as it is written, “Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness” You see, he was justified by faith before the coming Jesus Christ, same goes for Noah. As for the people who lived before the days of King Shaka (for the gospel came to this land in the days King Shaka) where the gospel wasn’t heard, Paul says of them, “For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another”  It is God’s business to deal with those who haven’t heard the gospel but I tell you the truth, that the laws of God were written in their hearts, therefore their conscience made them aware of what right or wrong. Those who have sinned without the law shall perish without the law and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.

DSCF1905“I have no argument on this matter” Brother Mandlakhe added, “I take what the scripture says, the person who believes on the Lord Jesus Christ shall be saved and the one who doesn’t believe will go to hell, that is enough for me”

Romans 2:12-16 KJV

(12) For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

(13) (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

(14) For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

(15) Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

(16) In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

“Are you guys from Faith Mission?” Mxolisi asked

“No, We believe in the Lord Jesus Christ” I replied.

He then took my number down and promised that he would try to connect me to some of the TACC guys who might try to explain their faith to me. I responded, “That would be great, I wish to meet them because it seems like there is a lot of deception you have been taught by your pastors. I don’t blame them but I blame their teachers. You need to search the scriptures yourself and not just take the words of men. Do like the Bereans in Acts 17 who searched the scriptures in order to see if what the apostles taught was true or not.”

Amen.

ALL GLORY TO OUR GOD ALONE